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		<title>By: Adam Lambert</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/07/01/why-lebron-is-going-to-the-nets/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 20:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leban - are you a Bulls fan?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leban &#8211; are you a Bulls fan?</p>
<p> <img src='http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: EZ Leban</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/07/01/why-lebron-is-going-to-the-nets/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>EZ Leban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miami has 2 players under contract, Chalmers and Beasley.  How are they in title contention?  While Wade has said he would prefer to return, he has qualified that statement that he is only going back if the Heat acquire the right assets.    With teams like Memphis and Atlanta paying out max contracts there is on guarantee any team with cap space will even have a chance at the top free agents.

The Bulls have actual players that are good, an All Star, a future All Star, and all Rookie team forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miami has 2 players under contract, Chalmers and Beasley.  How are they in title contention?  While Wade has said he would prefer to return, he has qualified that statement that he is only going back if the Heat acquire the right assets.    With teams like Memphis and Atlanta paying out max contracts there is on guarantee any team with cap space will even have a chance at the top free agents.</p>
<p>The Bulls have actual players that are good, an All Star, a future All Star, and all Rookie team forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe the Nets have a much better shot than the Knicks. I never understood why the pathetic Knicks were ever considered to be in the running. LeBron has deep roots in northwestern Ohio, and if he leaves, it will be either to seriously pursue a championship or to build his brand. That makes Miami (for title contention) and the Nets (because of the Russian owners plans to make the *team* an international brand) the most likely non-Cleveland contenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe the Nets have a much better shot than the Knicks. I never understood why the pathetic Knicks were ever considered to be in the running. LeBron has deep roots in northwestern Ohio, and if he leaves, it will be either to seriously pursue a championship or to build his brand. That makes Miami (for title contention) and the Nets (because of the Russian owners plans to make the *team* an international brand) the most likely non-Cleveland contenders.</p>
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		<title>By: EZ Leban</title>
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		<dc:creator>EZ Leban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name a single former Bull that is a current All Star.  

As to your comparison, clearly that is off since more players in the NHL have played for the Islanders than have not and after hearing the awesome offseason strategy of Garth Snow for this offseason the % that has played (unhappily) for the Fishsticks will go up

Letting mediocre and bad players go should not be a damnation of management, other than why were they on the team in the first place.  Also, continually fleecing the Knicks should be (and was by all Bulls fans) applauded.  No one misses Zeke more than John Paxson.  

The only player of note that they let go when he was good was Elton Brand and they traded him to get the 2nd pick in the draft.  While that did not work out, it&#039;s not like it was a salary dump.  In the past 10 years the only salary dumps that come to mind were the recent ones for Salmons and Hinrich and they needed to do that to have a shot at this summer&#039;s free agents, clearly worth the shot.  And Salmons is now a free agent and they could re-sign him if they wanted to (but that won&#039;t happen).

I finally found an advantage that the Knicks have over the other teams with cap space, and it will make you laugh.  It&#039;s Eddy Curry!!!  His deal is finally expiring this year and the Knicks could end up with $11M in cap space for next summer to go after someone like Tony Parker or Tim Duncan.  I would add Carmelo but he probably will either sign an extension or get traded so I doubt he would be available.

As to your other points, clearly #4 is more to be determined than a reality (though I admit the big middle finger to Dolan billboard across from MSG is a good indication and also pretty cool).  And as for #1 and #2, there was this other player that won titles in Chicago who did pretty well for himself in both regards.  The biggest market in the world China loves winners (and that is why Kobe outsells LeBron there by a mile).  So as much as you may say #3 is only 1 factor it has a big impact on #1 and #2.

Of course, LeBron would actually have to win something with the Bulls (which would be the first non-MJ title for the team) for #1 and #2 to have a chance at applying whereas Prokorov could give him an aluminum mine on the Kamchatkan Pennisula just for signing with the Nets, so the Nets have a great argument for #1.

All in all I think he stays in Cleveland but if he leaves, I think the Bulls and Nets have the best shots at acquiring his services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name a single former Bull that is a current All Star.  </p>
<p>As to your comparison, clearly that is off since more players in the NHL have played for the Islanders than have not and after hearing the awesome offseason strategy of Garth Snow for this offseason the % that has played (unhappily) for the Fishsticks will go up</p>
<p>Letting mediocre and bad players go should not be a damnation of management, other than why were they on the team in the first place.  Also, continually fleecing the Knicks should be (and was by all Bulls fans) applauded.  No one misses Zeke more than John Paxson.  </p>
<p>The only player of note that they let go when he was good was Elton Brand and they traded him to get the 2nd pick in the draft.  While that did not work out, it&#8217;s not like it was a salary dump.  In the past 10 years the only salary dumps that come to mind were the recent ones for Salmons and Hinrich and they needed to do that to have a shot at this summer&#8217;s free agents, clearly worth the shot.  And Salmons is now a free agent and they could re-sign him if they wanted to (but that won&#8217;t happen).</p>
<p>I finally found an advantage that the Knicks have over the other teams with cap space, and it will make you laugh.  It&#8217;s Eddy Curry!!!  His deal is finally expiring this year and the Knicks could end up with $11M in cap space for next summer to go after someone like Tony Parker or Tim Duncan.  I would add Carmelo but he probably will either sign an extension or get traded so I doubt he would be available.</p>
<p>As to your other points, clearly #4 is more to be determined than a reality (though I admit the big middle finger to Dolan billboard across from MSG is a good indication and also pretty cool).  And as for #1 and #2, there was this other player that won titles in Chicago who did pretty well for himself in both regards.  The biggest market in the world China loves winners (and that is why Kobe outsells LeBron there by a mile).  So as much as you may say #3 is only 1 factor it has a big impact on #1 and #2.</p>
<p>Of course, LeBron would actually have to win something with the Bulls (which would be the first non-MJ title for the team) for #1 and #2 to have a chance at applying whereas Prokorov could give him an aluminum mine on the Kamchatkan Pennisula just for signing with the Nets, so the Nets have a great argument for #1.</p>
<p>All in all I think he stays in Cleveland but if he leaves, I think the Bulls and Nets have the best shots at acquiring his services.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Lambert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t about being in contention only.  Look at the big names they let go (not counting the times they ripped off the Knicks).  There are more former Bulls around the league as there are former Islander goalies in the NHL.

Of course, that is only one of the four reasons I put above, so even to concede that, there are still 3 others why I think he comes to the Nets - and none involve Jordan&#039;s ghost (which I still think is a bit of the case but not even making the top 5 reasons).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t about being in contention only.  Look at the big names they let go (not counting the times they ripped off the Knicks).  There are more former Bulls around the league as there are former Islander goalies in the NHL.</p>
<p>Of course, that is only one of the four reasons I put above, so even to concede that, there are still 3 others why I think he comes to the Nets &#8211; and none involve Jordan&#8217;s ghost (which I still think is a bit of the case but not even making the top 5 reasons).</p>
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		<title>By: EZ Leban</title>
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		<dc:creator>EZ Leban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the post Jordan era, name one time the Bulls were in contention.  It is not possible.  Still they spent above market to bring in Ben Wallace in the hopes that his D and the young team they had at the time would be able to advance.  It didn&#039;t work out, but it shows they will spend when they think it will lead to winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the post Jordan era, name one time the Bulls were in contention.  It is not possible.  Still they spent above market to bring in Ben Wallace in the hopes that his D and the young team they had at the time would be able to advance.  It didn&#8217;t work out, but it shows they will spend when they think it will lead to winning.</p>
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		<title>By: EZ Leban</title>
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		<dc:creator>EZ Leban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While bashing Reinsdorf is popular these days (especially among unelightened Knicks fans who project their fear of MJ and his legacy onto LeBron) it is well documented that the Bulls will spend whatever it takes when they are in contention to win a championship.  Jordan was easily the highest paid player in his day, and if there had been a salary cap the 2nd ThreePeat would have featured teams that would have crushed that cap as Rodman, Pippen, Harper, Kukoc and Longley were not playing with discounted contracts.  Also, once it was clear that the run was over (a year too early for my liking), the Bulls front office did Pippen a huge favor by signing him to an extension before trading him for basically nothing so that he could earn a lot more than he would have been able to garner in free agency.  This is one of many, many examples of the current owner paying out way beyond what he owes to his players and former players contractually.  The Chicago Tribune had a lengthy article on this topic after Wade&#039;s remarks which were clearly said as part of his efforts to recruit free agents to Miami.  It is sad that Riley can use and is using Wade as a spokesperson for the Heat without penalty but other owners or GMs make an offhand joke in passing and get a $10K fine.

Other than playing in the world&#039;s most run down arena I can not think of a single thing the Knicks have over the other teams and including Dolan in the recruiting meeting is a death knell for that signing.

It&#039;s amazing the Team USA was able to win with LeBron and Wade et al since most of those players need the ball in their hand.  On the Cavs LeBron needed the ball in his hand as his team mates stunk, I am sure he would be happy to be able to take a few possessions off per quarter without having his team loose points every time he does.

At this point, it is a 3 team race between the Cavs (home town, $30 million), Bulls (best chance to win now and multiple titles) and Nets (decent roster and Prokorhov).  The Knicks have as much chance as the Mavericks, or as much chance of me winning Take 5 today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While bashing Reinsdorf is popular these days (especially among unelightened Knicks fans who project their fear of MJ and his legacy onto LeBron) it is well documented that the Bulls will spend whatever it takes when they are in contention to win a championship.  Jordan was easily the highest paid player in his day, and if there had been a salary cap the 2nd ThreePeat would have featured teams that would have crushed that cap as Rodman, Pippen, Harper, Kukoc and Longley were not playing with discounted contracts.  Also, once it was clear that the run was over (a year too early for my liking), the Bulls front office did Pippen a huge favor by signing him to an extension before trading him for basically nothing so that he could earn a lot more than he would have been able to garner in free agency.  This is one of many, many examples of the current owner paying out way beyond what he owes to his players and former players contractually.  The Chicago Tribune had a lengthy article on this topic after Wade&#8217;s remarks which were clearly said as part of his efforts to recruit free agents to Miami.  It is sad that Riley can use and is using Wade as a spokesperson for the Heat without penalty but other owners or GMs make an offhand joke in passing and get a $10K fine.</p>
<p>Other than playing in the world&#8217;s most run down arena I can not think of a single thing the Knicks have over the other teams and including Dolan in the recruiting meeting is a death knell for that signing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing the Team USA was able to win with LeBron and Wade et al since most of those players need the ball in their hand.  On the Cavs LeBron needed the ball in his hand as his team mates stunk, I am sure he would be happy to be able to take a few possessions off per quarter without having his team loose points every time he does.</p>
<p>At this point, it is a 3 team race between the Cavs (home town, $30 million), Bulls (best chance to win now and multiple titles) and Nets (decent roster and Prokorhov).  The Knicks have as much chance as the Mavericks, or as much chance of me winning Take 5 today.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Slammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Slammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Nets have been underplayed by the punditry. If the goal is to win a title next year, then sure, the Bulls are probably a tad closer. But for the long term? I think LBJ needs a cast where he&#039;s the one with the ball in his hands, and with Rose in Chicago you&#039;d have two on-the-ball guys. The Nets have buttloads of money and flexibility.

I don&#039;t think LeBron will see it this way in the end, but I may be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Nets have been underplayed by the punditry. If the goal is to win a title next year, then sure, the Bulls are probably a tad closer. But for the long term? I think LBJ needs a cast where he&#8217;s the one with the ball in his hands, and with Rose in Chicago you&#8217;d have two on-the-ball guys. The Nets have buttloads of money and flexibility.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think LeBron will see it this way in the end, but I may be wrong.</p>
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