Comments on: (Don’t?) Believe the Hype…. http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/06/23/don%e2%80%99t-believe-the-hype%e2%80%a6/ Shrill on Sports Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: TopCasino http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/06/23/don%e2%80%99t-believe-the-hype%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-1581 TopCasino Wed, 02 Jul 2025 18:34:31 +0000 http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/?p=24#comment-1581 https://vk.com/wall-231374912_39 https://vk.com/wall-231374912_39

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]]> By: Adam Lambert http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/06/23/don%e2%80%99t-believe-the-hype%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Adam Lambert Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:04:34 +0000 http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/?p=24#comment-18 <i>The biggest sham of the All-Star Game is the managing of the game to make sure everyone gets an at bat makes the game itself pretty awful.</i> Couldn't agree more - especially if the game "counts" now. I added a piece to this post about a truly deserving rookie pitcher - Jaime Garcia. Also, the "every team has a representative" would impact whether a Strasburg or Griffey gets added. But maybe a special "lifetime achievement roster spot" for retiring players could solve some of that. I do agree also on Utley - provided that a truly deserving 2B gets added based on this year's stats. I hate when players get in on reputation and more deserving players don't make the cut, but that happens every year and is part of the fan voting process..... The biggest sham of the All-Star Game is the managing of the game to make sure everyone gets an at bat makes the game itself pretty awful.

Couldn’t agree more – especially if the game “counts” now.

I added a piece to this post about a truly deserving rookie pitcher – Jaime Garcia. Also, the “every team has a representative” would impact whether a Strasburg or Griffey gets added. But maybe a special “lifetime achievement roster spot” for retiring players could solve some of that.

I do agree also on Utley – provided that a truly deserving 2B gets added based on this year’s stats. I hate when players get in on reputation and more deserving players don’t make the cut, but that happens every year and is part of the fan voting process…..

]]> By: CTV http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/06/23/don%e2%80%99t-believe-the-hype%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-17 CTV Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:56:00 +0000 http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/?p=24#comment-17 I think the current implementation strikes a good balance between 1/2 season merit and other considerations, including career value and yes, buzz. It allows the manager (if they want) to make a small handful of picks that are not based only on 1/2 season merit. Strasburg should be one of those picks (as should Griffey, in my opinion, and sub-par superstars like Utley). This does not significantly impact the game enough that the "countiness" of it is affected. The biggest sham of the All-Star Game is the managing of the game to make sure everyone gets an at bat makes the game itself pretty awful. I think the current implementation strikes a good balance between 1/2 season merit and other considerations, including career value and yes, buzz. It allows the manager (if they want) to make a small handful of picks that are not based only on 1/2 season merit. Strasburg should be one of those picks (as should Griffey, in my opinion, and sub-par superstars like Utley). This does not significantly impact the game enough that the “countiness” of it is affected.

The biggest sham of the All-Star Game is the managing of the game to make sure everyone gets an at bat makes the game itself pretty awful.

]]> By: Adam Lambert http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/06/23/don%e2%80%99t-believe-the-hype%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Adam Lambert Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:57:42 +0000 http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/?p=24#comment-15 intersting, Chris, and since I know you are a bigger stathead than I am, it is even more interesting to hear your take. I look at it as the game "counting" being irrelevant to who is chosen to play based on the current rules for choosing players (fan votes, manager of WS picks and the online votes for last guy in). Making the game somewhat relevant was more of a gimmick to me, and until the voting takes out the ballot box stuffing element, that is what we are stuck with. So if Strasburg was on the ballot and got in that way, so be it (although aren't pitchers not on the ballot?) But if it is based on "who can generate the most buzz and interest", then that is different than "who is having the best season" or "who do fans want to see the most" - both have merits but that's what the NBA slam dunk contest, the MLB Home Run derby and NHL skills contests are supposed to do. of course, if his next 4 starts are like his first 3, then maybe there is a better case if he is 5-1 with a sub 2.00 ERA and 60Ks. But just not right now. intersting, Chris, and since I know you are a bigger stathead than I am, it is even more interesting to hear your take.

I look at it as the game “counting” being irrelevant to who is chosen to play based on the current rules for choosing players (fan votes, manager of WS picks and the online votes for last guy in). Making the game somewhat relevant was more of a gimmick to me, and until the voting takes out the ballot box stuffing element, that is what we are stuck with.

So if Strasburg was on the ballot and got in that way, so be it (although aren’t pitchers not on the ballot?)

But if it is based on “who can generate the most buzz and interest”, then that is different than “who is having the best season” or “who do fans want to see the most” – both have merits but that’s what the NBA slam dunk contest, the MLB Home Run derby and NHL skills contests are supposed to do.

of course, if his next 4 starts are like his first 3, then maybe there is a better case if he is 5-1 with a sub 2.00 ERA and 60Ks. But just not right now.

]]> By: CTV http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/2010/06/23/don%e2%80%99t-believe-the-hype%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-13 CTV Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:47:33 +0000 http://dirtyhippiesportstalk.com/?p=24#comment-13 He probably has 3 more starts before staffs are named. If they are dominant, he should definitely be on the team. Despite the 'this time it counts' stuff - the game is an exhibition, meant for the fans, and why wouldnt you want him out there? The game should be used to excite real fans and drum up interest from casual fans. It's the perfect showcase for him. Plus, the game *does* count for home field in the WS, and he is the best choice to actually pitch well. I'm a stathead, but I have never been in favor of using 1/2 year stats alone as All-Star input. Superstars having sub-super years should be invited, as should phenoms acting like phenoms, if not for a full 1/2 year. Strasburg is not about hype alone. He dominated real major leaguers in spring training. He pitched off the charts in the minors. He has dominated in his short time in the majors. Who wouldn't pay to see him vs Josh Hamilton in the All-Star game? I sure would. He probably has 3 more starts before staffs are named. If they are dominant, he should definitely be on the team. Despite the ‘this time it counts’ stuff – the game is an exhibition, meant for the fans, and why wouldnt you want him out there? The game should be used to excite real fans and drum up interest from casual fans. It’s the perfect showcase for him. Plus, the game *does* count for home field in the WS, and he is the best choice to actually pitch well.

I’m a stathead, but I have never been in favor of using 1/2 year stats alone as All-Star input. Superstars having sub-super years should be invited, as should phenoms acting like phenoms, if not for a full 1/2 year.

Strasburg is not about hype alone. He dominated real major leaguers in spring training. He pitched off the charts in the minors. He has dominated in his short time in the majors.

Who wouldn’t pay to see him vs Josh Hamilton in the All-Star game? I sure would.

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